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 Post subject: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:09 pm 
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Hi everyone,
One of my Cockers - Rocky - has been plagued with ear infections a good part of his 9 years. During his latest episode last month, his ear canal was swollen shut, and he was put on a short course of Prednisone and Animax twice a day. When I went for a recheck, the vet told me to continue with the meds 2 more days because the ears were so much better.

Well, to make a long story short, I have noticed that the redness never completely went out of the ear, although the canal was not swollen, but then a couple of days ago the canal had become very narrow again. So......back to the vet. This time, I took Rocky to one of the other vets that I usually see. (There's a team of 5 vets at the office.) He said Rocky had stenosis (narrowing) of the ear canal and put him on antibiotics for 14 days. What worries me is that the vet said that sometimes the canal won't open back up and stay closed. If it does open enough, he is going to do a flushing when I take him back in 2 weeks.

I'm so worried that the next step is a total ear ablation surgery because of the narrow ear canal. On the other hand, I have read some success stories about the dog being pain free the rest of his/her life - which is what I would love for Rocky.

Anyone have any experience with the total ear ablation surgery? Also, some of you have mentioned taking your dog for allergy tests to determine what is causing the infections. Can a regular vet do that or should I take Rocky to a specialist at a teaching hospital?

Thanks. Feels good to vent.


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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:52 pm 
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Hi: I'm hoping PeggyM sees this. She has dealt with a LOT of cockers in rescue situations, and many of them had very bad ears. I think I recall that she mentioned a product to try before doing a total ablation. I DO think you should take him to a dermatologist/specialist to determine exactly what he is allergic to. If you find out, you may be able to rule out an ablation surgery if you can have him treated soon enough. Many of us use K-9 solution to clean their ears, and it's a wonderful product, but I would't try that until his ears are completely cleared up, if possible. It contains alcohol and may make things worse - but once you get them cleared up, it's a great maintenance product.

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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:54 pm 
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So sorry about your problem with the ear canal, I have read that the vets need to keep the dogs on antibiotics three times longer than normal, this causes major yeast infections what an awful circle that is very hard to get out of.

One I would really find a new dog food I recommend Wysong's Epigen it's starch free dog food. Please look this up. Maybe find a frozen raw dog food at a feed store.

www.onlynaturalpet.com/.../Wysong-Epige ... 101135.a...

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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:48 am 
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Thanks TinaP and Joe,
When I was reading some different posts yesterday, I ran across some posts that recommended the K9 ear solution. It's certainly worth trying. I have used Epi-Otic in the past just because the vet recommended it and said that it not only cleans the ears but also has a drying effect.
I forgot to mention that when this recent ear infection started right after Christmas, the vet took a swab and looked at it and said it was a yeast and bacteria infection. Back in November I switched all my dogs to Blue Buffalo. I had just rescued a Cocker who had sensitivities to grain so I thought why not switch all of my dogs to that. The vet said it takes about 8 weeks for the old food to get out of their systems as far as their ability to cause allergies. Rocky was doing so well for awhile, and now this. Have read several things about the raw food diet. I'm willing to try anything!
Will keep you posted. Thanks again & thanks for the prayers


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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:23 pm 
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Noticed the Vet said eight weeks, this applies to medication too but they don't like to say that part.
The dogs system is slow to repair it's self.

We met some people that had a Schnauzer, in less than four weeks his scratching chewing was gone. Maestro was cured and every time I see them out and about they thank me. It feels so good inside, then I told them how to clean Maestro's teeth over a year ago, another BIG THANK YOU. I love it! Their Vet can't believe he is the same dog. In fact I didn't ask if they told him what they did to clean Maestro's teeth.

Please change that food! Here are the two best, find a frozen raw, any frozen raw, it should come in small one ounce bricks as it should be all grounded up, or the Wysong Epigen kibble. Animal food should be 80% wet, kibble puts a strain of the liver and kidneys making them work overtime. Then freeze dried is out there too.

I did find a cat on youtube last month that sounds like your problem, the owner treated and fixed it in twenty-one days, but she had to find a vet to put the cat out to medicate that ear canal. The cat didn't like it. The cat shook it's head and that growth flew out. YUK!

I think our first cocker at 14 years, she was being over taken by this same problem, we thought 14 was old for a cocker.


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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:54 pm 
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Joe,
I may check out the food you're talking about. Right now I'm thinking of taking Rocky to an allergist. I have always thought he may have allergies to pollen. In the fall he coughs quite a bit when I have him outside. The vet told me it was probably pollen allergies. Now I'm wondering if he could be allergic to other environmental things.

About the cat video, was the ear canal swollen shut? Just wondered (even if the cat was sedated) how they got the medicine in his ear.

I had a Cocker who lived to be 14. He was in excellent health EXCEPT he had disc problems that at age 8 he had surgery to correct. I was always so happy that I had him for another 6 years after the spinal surgery.


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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:22 am 
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I believe it was or about there, but trying to apply the cream on a cat is a lot harder to do. I'm sure because of the claws. What I'm after is, if you don't feed the yeast with starch they will die off. Read the food label they all have starch by grains.

This really isn't starch free: This is Primal frozen raw three pounds, in California 16 dollars a bag, a cocker should have about half a pound a day. It's not cheap.

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Ingredients: Lamb Hearts, Lamb Livers, Ground Lamb Bones, Organic Kale, Organic Carrots, Organic Yams, Organic Broccoli, Organic Apples, Cranberries, Blueberries, Organic Pumpkin Seeds, Organic Sunflower Seeds, Minerals (Zinc Sulfate, Copper Carbonate, Sodium Selenite), Organic Parsley, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar, Salmon Oil, Organic Coconut Oil, Organic Quinoa Sprout Powder, Dried Organic Kelp, Alfalfa, Natural Vitamin E.

Canine Lamb Formula Benefits:
Fresh lamb for superior levels of amino and essential fatty acids.
Finely ground, fresh lamb bones for optimum levels of calcium.
Organic produce for food-derived vitamins A, B-complex, C and D.
Cold-water salmon oil for essential omega-3 fatty acids.
Organic and unrefined nutritional supplements for digestion and circulation.
Vitamin E as an antioxidant.
Organic coconut oil for linolenic fatty acids.

**** Try to find this in a kibble, kibble is the dogs worse diet the preservatives are the killer same with us.

I had to go to a good pet store to order the Epigen, by Wysong's, Wysong on their web site there is a store locator.

Later on I'll try to find the youtube story but not right now.

I'm on two and a half weeks on removing a wart on Oliver's back with O-ACV. I had removed a liver spot on by forehead the same way but used a band-aid soaked with it. This is not the cream.


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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:58 pm 
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I hope it works. Who knows? Ollie's wart looks half the size, and it doesn't look to happy.


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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:37 pm 
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How did it go with the wart? Hope well!
Thanks for the info about the food. I am presently feeding my dogs a grain-free dog food so wouldn't that be hypoallergic? I checked when I went to Petsmart today and they do have the refrigerated brands.
Rocky & I have an app't tomorrow with the vet. I am going to talk with him about possibly getting a referral to an allergist, although I know that the allergy tests don't cover food.
Will keep you posted.
thanks again for your message!


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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:32 pm 
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Mindy,
I don't know if you've had a chance to read this post or not...
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9998
but over the past years there have been many more like it. This stuff just really does work well on cocker ears.

Also, please have a look at this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=9291&hilit=+ears

Lots of good info there, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:39 pm 
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Chris,
Thanks so much for the links. I'm really amazed by how many people use the Zim's cleaner and have good results. I am going to write down the ingredients and show it to my vet.
I took Rocky back for a re-check today, and the swelling had gone down in the ear canals enough so that they could do a good flush with a bulb. There's still a little infection there, so Rocky's going to stay on the antibiotics a little while longer. I am going to take him to the vet every 3 months like I used to for a ear flush. The ear flushes were doing the job until the last time when I waited a little over a month - will never let that happen again - not even a day over!
Love the pic of your Cocker - really sweet!
Thanks again! :sm


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 Post subject: Re: Allergy testing/Total Ear Ablation surgery
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:36 am 
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If your here in the states I would look for this dog food if your a dry kibble buyer, www.wysongepigen.net/ this is the very first starch free dog food. Now why starch free you ask. Starch in our Cocker diet feeds yeast in and on the dogs body. The longer the Cocker are taking the drugs and when the pills are gone the yeast infection comes back. The medicine kills the good bacteria in the gut too causing this cycle, yeast infection to drugs it never stops.

I did special order a eight pound bag, I was fighting a lip fold infection on Ollie.


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