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 Post subject: Re: Arlo's World
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:17 am 
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Arlo goes to the groomer each Wed. And, he has become very comfortable being on the grooming table.
In fact when she is finished with him - he rests on the table and watches her groom the other dogs.
At home - I pull out the brush and motion for him to jump up on a large ottoman where I brush him.

So - this weekend we went to SF to deliver a painting that Melinda just sold.
While there we stayed with Melinda's brother -but during the day we used a "Doggie Vacay" pet sitter for Arlo to spend his days with (we dropped him off at about noon-ish and picked him up at 9pm-ish.

On day TWO I get a text with a photo - the sitter asked if I had a suggestion for the best way to ask Arlo to get down off of his DINING TABLE !!!
Arlo had parked himself there quite comfortably.

I am not sure if he felt it was time for his brushing (something he has grown fond of) - or he just wanted to have a great view.
Turns out the sitter walked out of the room - out the door to the back yard.
And, true to his Cocker self - Arlo had to follow :) Problem solved.

Below is photo of Arlo on this poor guys table - and below that -A photo of Melinda with Franco right after the painting was installed.
It is the dining room (they are in the middle of a full home remodel ) …


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 Post subject: Re: Arlo's World
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Arlo ...

You are way too cute!

I wish Chessie loved to get combed like that... she tolerates it but is not a big fan.

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 Post subject: Re: Arlo's World
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I'd settle for "tolerates". I dang near have to hog tie Abby and Ava is only slightly better than her :shock: I've decided between bath brushings are not worth the fight, otherthan an ear combing
Lisa R wrote:
Arlo ...

You are way too cute!

I wish Chessie loved to get combed like that... she tolerates it but is not a big fan.

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 Post subject: Re: Arlo's World
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Arlo, you are such a great dog! I love you!
Someone very kindly left the chair out for you, an invitation up, right?
Or are you just saying "Look at Me"? You are pretty gorgeous! :love

Cricket loves to be groomed too, but she hasn't figured out how to get on the counter by herself, she just stands and stares at me until I pop her up there for a combing. And she's probably sorry she doesn't have as much hair as Arlo: she gets a treat every time I have to take a break from drying because my am and ears are tired. That would be a 3 or 4 treat coat for us!

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 Post subject: Re: Arlo's World
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Chris Gomes wrote:
Cricket loves to be groomed too, but she hasn't figured out how to get on the counter by herself, she just stands and stares at me until I pop her up there for a combing. And she's probably sorry she doesn't have as much hair as Arlo: she gets a treat every time I have to take a break from drying because my am and ears are tired. That would be a 3 or 4 treat coat for us!


My arms get tired too!
I was wondering if I was in bad shape.

I found that doing the daily brushing it only takes a 5 to 10 min to brush him fully out.
I always brush in the morning so he looks his best to go out into the world :)

I am so grateful that he likes it- I think it makes his body feel good.
He loves to feel clean.

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 Post subject: Re: Arlo's World
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Oh dear… POOOOORRR.. Little Arlo.

New problems for our little guy.

Hoping there is some suggestions here - but have a bad feeling about this one.

About 4 weeks ago he suddenly started to bite and itch .. mostly his sides.
We thought it was the spot on his belly - but that has been dealt with.

The groomer has tried many different shampoos…
He's on flea meds .. He now takes two pills a day (like benadryl).
He has seen the regular vet 2 times and the allergist 3 times.
They really don't think it is food - but "environment" …
And, it came on so suddenly..
But OH MY GOD - Our poor little guy.
He just can't catch a break.

That said .. in spite of it all he is still a sweet sweet guy.

Any suggestions out there?

Our next step is the dreaded allergy tests and then the shots.
I've heard such mixed things about this.

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 Post subject: Re: Arlo's World
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leigh4ta wrote:
Oh dear… POOOOORRR.. Little Arlo.

New problems for our little guy.

Hoping there is some suggestions here - but have a bad feeling about this one.

About 4 weeks ago he suddenly started to bite and itch .. mostly his sides.
We thought it was the spot on his belly - but that has been dealt with.

The groomer has tried many different shampoos…
He's on flea meds .. He now takes two pills a day (like benadryl).
He has seen the regular vet 2 times and the allergist 3 times.
They really don't think it is food - but "environment" …
And, it came on so suddenly..
But OH MY GOD - Our poor little guy.
He just can't catch a break.

That said .. in spite of it all he is still a sweet sweet guy.

Any suggestions out there?

Our next step is the dreaded allergy tests and then the shots.
I've heard such mixed things about this.


Leigh...

I recently wrote about environmental allergies. Here is the post .. https://zimfamilycockers.com/Forums/vie ... +allergies

Does Arlo have a Dermatologist? I know the last thing you want is another vet but it might not be a bad thing to start investigate finding a good one. Around here you can wait months to get a new client appointment.

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 Post subject: Re: Arlo's World
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I would try a organic apple cider vinegar rinse a 50/50 mix with water and rub it in. Maybe distilled water mix. What kind of soaps been used? Look it up for yourself about the OACV vinegar uses. Just an idea. Someone told me for a bad spot mixed some Himalaya pink sea salt, not table salt, and coconut oil on it.


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You have described my Abby. I've tried everything. I do, and so does the vet, believe it is environmental. She is itchy and nothing really seems to make it stop. We have tried it ALL...shampoos, ACV (organic), various protein base food, and grain free. I tell everyone she takes after her mommy (me). I have allergies galore too. I had a friend go the dermatologist route and all she did was waste SEVERAL hundreds of dollars. Abby isn't to the point of eating herself up, but if she gets there, we'll figure out a med that helps. I do give her 1/2 of a zyrtec a day, and it might help just a bit. :dk

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Oh poor Arlo! Well, if it's environmental, like seasonal pollens, it should go away with time. This is a particularly interesting year for pollen allergies: because of no winter rains and very late spring rains, things are blooming "out of season," for instance, all the yellow things that usually bloom late Jan-early Feb have been blooming here in May! Also, things are blooming at the same time that don't, normally. So the allergy load is heavier than normal. Here's to hoping it's pollen allergies, in which case you should be nearing the end of it.

Ideas other than that... review his food and treats very carefully, maybe ingredients have been changed? Also, what about your water? With the drought, water levels are different, there may be changes in additives for purification, and the mineral levels certainly could be different. Maybe try bottled water- distilled- for a few days.

Also, I'd go with as little shampoo and conditioner as possible, just to lighten the load of things he's exposed to. Because it's mostly his sides, I'd also be a bit suspicious of a "finishing" spray. Again, this maybe something he's been exposed to before, but with allergies, it's all about the total load- the most benign thing can overflow the cup, so to speak.

What about anything that's been used to clean floors that he lays on? And, pollen and dust get tracked inside...

At any rate, I hope it all subsides soon! Poor baby! Give him some hugs from me :)

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Fertilizer burns if playing outside?


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Good question, Joe.

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Went went through that seven years ago. Poor Ollie woke up at one AM one night almost screaming and scratching. We didn't know what to do so a one AM shower, we tore the bed apart washed the sheets, we vacuum the whole house. We went back to bed five AM. It took several days to figured out what happened. The fertilizer was out on the sidewalks that we walked on. We walked those sidewalks for fifteen years and this was the first time something like this ever happened. We don't use chemical fertilizer on our lawn, it's all organic when it rains.

This changed our walk from where we live to the county park with fleas and ticks plus a parking permit. Today Ollie looked at a deer and the deer looked at us, Ollie just ignore it and we marched on up the grade.


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Hi everyone.

Thanks SO much for the feedback. I wanted to wait to see what happened after the doctor to write an update.

First - Yes. Arlo does have a dermatologist. He's had her since we was 18 weeks old when she did his ear drum surgery. She warned us that she HOPED she would be wrong - but that at about 2 ish.. He might begin to have the "environmental" allergies.

Next - We did suspect that this is exactly what was coming as because it happened SO suddenly. One day normal the next day the chewing began.

I am not kidding when I say that the night before I took him to the doctor, I literally wished I could knock him out.
It just killed me to see him suffer.

Dr Visit:
Well - Diagnosis is allergies. No surprise to you seasoned folks :)
We'd already been there 3 times.
Tried the different shampoos.
I made her scrap things and grow them out to rule out staff or other infections.
She did find some yeast in his ear (not much) so he is on meds for that.

Course of treatment: ($700)
We took the blood for the allergy tests. (did not choose to put him under and have skin test)
She put Arlo on a 6 day treatment of the same kind of steroids he was on with his ear infection.
She used this one because we knew he did well on it before with no obvious side effects.
He is on steroid and antimicrobial shampoo and rinse.
Once we get the tests back he will go on the sublingual treatments. (vs the shots)
The treatment is 2 times a day - and supposedly it works as well as shots PROVIDED you administer the treatments religiously. (we already do this with him - his meals are cooked for him 2 times a day like clockwork).
Supposedly (according to my vet) the chance for successful outcome is 75%. But, typically this is of help for the NEXT season - not this one. Although, she did say that some DO respond sooner.

Currently - he is responding to the steroids. (This treatment was because he was in such a bad state)
And this has also cleared up his runny eye that the eye doctor keeps telling us is allergies.

We are holding our breath for what happens when the 6 days is up.

Again - thanks to everyone.
It helps to know this does happen.
And, once again poor little Arlo remains such a sweet lovely guy in spite of it all.

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I know you love the long coat look but sorry that is part of the problem. That long fur collects lots of pollen and dirt.


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I really must agree with joe on the long coat

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About the long coat.
Arlo is bathed once a week - and the shampoo being used is supposed to help his skin irritations.
His itching continued even right after the bath.

We discussed it with the doctor and did shave out a shell - so his back is shaved and his underbelly.
While you do see the skirt and the chest hair it is not as much long hair as it appears.

We'll discuss this more with the doctor and I'll see if I can learn.

Any others on here have the long hair with allergies and find measurable results by going shorter?
And, if so, how much shorter did you go?


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Arlo goes to the groomer every Wednesday we read that, just like to know what is being used on his body. Maybe this could help some other people out there with a dog allergies. Some use oatmeal base shampoo.

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Hi

Shampoo and Conditioner used:
TrizCHLOR 4HC Shampoo With Hydrocortisone
Also, the conditioner and a spry for his belly that was bothering him the most.

My point about the weekly baths is - not sure how much pollen is getting on him within hours of a bath due to long hair.

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Thank you for an answer on the latest product. Read on Amazon a pit with red irritated skin gets washed twice a week. If you want to try a product that will or should out do what your using http://www.kimberlymatalas.com/

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Thank you Joe - I will look into that brand :)

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I have written to her she claims what I said for internal in using real salt in the drinking water. (Not all the time) It seems to be most in really great dog foods they either use real sea salt or kelp or both. Other food add iodized table salt that's not good.

She uses the real sea salt in the shampoo an lets it set on the dog for ten minutes. She didn't name the sea salt if I had to guess Pink Himalayan Salts I don't think one can over do it. I was treating one of Oliver's warts that was small with warmed up some coconut oil mix with the sea salt and apply. Is Arlo's skin red in color from the allergies?

If you google the product you can find she doesn't really say how to use the three items and that's what's what I ordered. Another item to look into EARTH BATH TEA TREE & ALOE
Soothes hot spots and itchy,
chafed skin caused by bites,
dandruff or other dermatitis
Tea tree oil fragrance

There is more at Earth Bath

Have you tried the 50/50 water and organic apple cider vinegar rinse? Cheaper way out.


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Arlo's skin is not red at all. And, his itching seems to be mostly on his belly.
We had his belly shaved a few weeks ago and use the same product as the shampoo which is a spray.
It seems to help him. And, he takes the antihistamine 2 times a day.

Currently, he is not suffering. We'll see what happens when his steroid treatment wears off.


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So - We got a call from the Vet this morning.

Arlo, was born inland from Los Angeles and I don't think near too many Palm Trees - if any.

We brought him home at 8 weeks old and we live among MANY Palm Trees.

The Vet was surprised because Arlo,s allergy tests show he is MOST allergic to …

PALM TREES ….W!@# the What! Noooooooooooooo…

NOW were on earth are we to retire :)


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