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 Post subject: Off to UC Davis for Oliver's CUSHING'S qualifying first day
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:13 pm 
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He is stressed out just going to the park to walk in the car everyday, even going to grandpa's house the twenty mile ride. So UC Davis it about 75 miles from home. We spent about two hours with a student VET as she felt around his body all those fatty spots everywhere. Taking notes from my records of his medical history. Which there isn't any. From what food he eats, to what herbs he is taking for cushing's.

Then they waited today to call my local VET this AM as they at UC knew we were coming as they called Tuesday to remind us for the Wednesday 11 AM appointment. My Vet didn't send any info by 11AM. There no medical history except surgery to remove his body growths. In his history anyway. They had this info from Monday's EMAIL! To get in touch with them. The appointment was made over a week ago. They had the information then.

Then came the so called blood pressure test, ya I'll tell you this was a joke for 60 dollars. It was a waste of time. Another student Vet, as I said don't you know the dog needs to laying down and not putting weight on his leg with the cuff on standing up or sitting down? She didn't know that? So I tried to put Oliver on my lap but he is not a lap boy. That didn't work either.

You can see dogs on youtube getting blood pressure testing done but they are trained dogs or under asleep.

What do you think a stress out dog blood pressure would be? HIGH of course! I could see the readings were HIGH. No wonder I don't like VETS! This was a student though I do think she should had known this was waste of time. Looking at the numbers. In the video is the same machine that they used.


When he had his surgery his blood pressure was normal so was his heart rate but he was under then. I guess that doesn't count OMG! I didn't ask what his heart rate was today it's a been normal around 80 beats. All I know his heart is healthy no complaints from my VET. It should be as we both walk two to three miles a day with me. We must have several thousand miles and over three or four sets of shoes in ten years for me.

So after this part of the exam they needed a fresh urine sample straight out of the bladder, so there goes the needle into the bladder withdrawing the fluid out. I wonder how that went? This after two samples of first pee in the morning.

Then the first student VET came back out and said his blood pressure was high and they needed to test his eye's. YUP! No extra charge. The back of the eyes are good. :joy ( 10.7 year old cocker)
If there was high blood pressure the back of the eyes would be damage. Now my wife noticed his eyes were dilated. I told her his blood pressure test failed so they had to check to back of his eye to see if there any pressure damage. So reporting that his eye's did not show any damage or cataracts. :YAY

I wrote a note to UC Davis tonight, asking if we could do a MRI instead of ultrasound checking for any cancer and his internals other than the adrenals. The regulator real VET felt around like the student VET to compare notes. She said possible enlarge liver to me as she thought she felt the tip just out of his rib cage.

All of this was with a fasting dog with no food after 11PM Tuesday the night before. After words before we left he got 4 treats my guess milk bones, not sure. The time is 2PM, there for more the three hours as we got into the parking lot by 10:30 for the 11 o:clock appointment.

We walked up the stairs he did a great job doing that, and we took the elevator down his first time in one. I found a place outside so he could have some water after three hours in the building panting like a steam locomotive He drank some water and he puked up all the treat parts as I left them there for the college rats to eat. Did not clean up after him. I don't know if it was the stress or the cheap treats or both. Can't remember the last time he puked.

Waiting for the results of the exam on day one, if he gets the next two. If he does qualify or not. Well my guess he is in as 650.00 for today's test. So today's test and the last the months he eaten up over three grand on my savings for my own health insurance program, no deducible as it pays one hundred percent of his medical from his health saving account in the bank.

How to take the blood pressure, they did it a dozen times and failed. Notice how the dog doesn't fight the cuff in the video below? I wonder why? :raz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FZLtjdBk3g

Joe

Side note in fine print

Interesting they do an autopsy if he dies there under their care for FREE!

This was what was said, if he had cushing's he would steal food, jump on the counter top or table top to eat any food left behind. OMG! He hasn't done that yet, but there's no lose food out at anytime.

For the first time that I noticed he did try to pick something off sidewalk today to see if it was eatable on campus.


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 Post subject: Re: Off to UC Davis for Oliver's CUSHING'S qualifying first
PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:41 am 
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Wow!

Sounds like a stressful day for Both of you! Hope you get some answers for your trouble!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Off to UC Davis for Oliver's CUSHING'S qualifying first
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:59 pm 
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UC Davis called, Oliver doesn't not have Cushing's he does have higher level of protein in his urine, which could be blood pressure problem. His ALP is to 900 down from 1200 in May. Good news I guess. He does not make their study. I guess that's good.

Thought we get into their CUSHING'S STUDY and he failed, as only one liver enzyme is high ALP. His water intake is normal. Well I guess that is good. The high protein in his urine COULD MEAN HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE or this is big not enough water to drink whick means he failed, this in a raw food so he doesn't need water a good sign mostly in his diet. He failed the blood pressure test but he was so stressed out by then. He sounded like a STEAM LOCOMOTIVE as he panted away. After the high blood pressure reading they checked the back of the eyes and they were normal and I guess eyes are still good , no problem there. He was like that when he left the house but much worse after we got inside the building panting away. He did a great job climbing the stairs as it was his first time doing so many. So the lost of muscle mass in his hind quarter, that looks like weight lost, the awful panting, one enzyme that is high it's not full blown CUSHING'S plus the panting. Could have an enlarge liver through touch and feeling around near the end of his rib cage. Protein in the urine could had been not enough water in the AM also which was very true. So there goes his whacked out numbers AND ANOTHER FAIL. I gave him a little water as much as he wanted to drink before we went into the building not much as we just got out of the AC in the car. No water before we left the house either as he usually drinks at the park.

I guess it's good news but I can't get the weight off of him, he really doesn't eat that much. Then walking either two to three miles a day. He is pretty healthy. They said an MIR would be 400, and that's an all day thing. I forgot what an ultrasound would cost. We tried. He failed their high blood pressure testing I'm sure as I saw what was being done I saw the numbers. I questioned it as he was either standing or siting down during the testing leg not at heart level. As the cuff was lower than the heart. The blood pressure under surgery is different they clam, as it was normal there at VETS during his 11 growths removals surgery.

None of this makes any sense to me, I'm not a VET.

GOOD NEWS I GUESS.

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 Post subject: Re: Off to UC Davis for Oliver's CUSHING'S qualifying first
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:44 pm 
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It's been two weeks as I'm waiting for their report on Oliver, so I Email UCD on 29TH Monday just to remind them as I asked for it on the 12th.

So sorry, they said. The cost of labor and a stamp, $650 well spent. Would I go back NO WAY, as my wife was RIGHT. Three hours in and out of rooms. Urine test my two AM samples, a blood withdraw, urine withdraw of out his bladder and blood pressure test.

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 Post subject: Re: Off to UC Davis for Oliver's CUSHING'S qualifying first
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:12 pm 
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So it's been almost a month sense we gone to UCD. I should had put an hold on the MC bill.

Joe

Hi Joe,

I am sorry that you have yet to receive the results from Oilver's testing. I have asked Meggan, our co-ordinator to send them on to you. We did not test Oliver for tick borne diseases as his visit as he was not showing any clinical signs of tick borne diseases. You can have this test performed through his primary care veterinarian- it is called a 4Dx. Unfortunately, it is too late now to add on this test here.

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 Post subject: Re: Off to UC Davis for Oliver's CUSHING'S qualifying first
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:37 pm 
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UCD sent pdf of blood work and exam, ears ok, eye's ok. :joy Should have blood pressure tested now.

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 Post subject: Re: Off to UC Davis for Oliver's CUSHING'S qualifying first
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Joe, just wondering - Sadie takes Denamarin, by Nutramax (Amazon has it) due to high liver values (she has AIHA and on prednisone and cyclosporine, wrecking her liver). But the Denamarin has helped much.

It sounds like you have been through so much. Thinking of you and hoping for good news.

Warm regards, Linda and Sadie


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 Post subject: Re: Off to UC Davis for Oliver's CUSHING'S qualifying first
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Sadie's sidekick wrote:
Joe, just wondering - Sadie takes Denamarin, by Nutramax (Amazon has it) due to high liver values (she has AIHA and on prednisone and cyclosporine, wrecking her liver). But the Denamarin has helped much.

It sounds like you have been through so much. Thinking of you and hoping for good news.

Warm regards, Linda and Sadie



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Oliver's ears were clean and there was no evidence of inflammation. His eyes looked unremarkable on exam (they were not red and did not have excessive discharge), measuring tear production is not a routine part of our exam. His gums were thickened in certain areas. I would suggest monitoring them and if his gums look bad/worse, I would have his primary care vet look at them and they can decide if Oliver needs to see a veterinary dental specialist.

I hope this addresses your questions.

Cheers,
Laura

Well not bad for 10 1/2 I guess.

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