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 Post subject: Help...vet visits for skin and ear infections so costly
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:57 am 
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:sad Our 6 year old red parti cocker Bella has constant ear infections and skin rashes, and we are going broke with the vet visits. She's been on many prescriptions, and now has bad itchy red scabs back again. Called the vet again today about skin rash and wants to see the dog again. She was diagnosed with staph infection months back. Why other than money do these vets want to see our pets so often for the same conditions? Their response is well she IS a cocker spaniel you know..arrggghhhh..any thoughts or suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: Help...vet visits for skin and ear infections so costly
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:34 am 
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Many cockers have allergies to grain, especially to corn & wheat. This grain allergy can cause itchy skin and ear issues.
Switching to a grain free food may help.
And don't forget to switch to using grain free treats as well.

Cockers ears need to be cleaned regularly to prevent ear infections.
Here is the link to the ear cleaning formula that many Zim forum members use.
http://www.zimfamilycockers.com/EarCleaner.html

Another option is K-9 Ear Solution. I use this for my 5 cockers, and truly have not had ear problems for my dogs. I purchase it on-line; it is a bit pricey, but worth it when compared to vet bills! Google the name.

Also, make sure your groomer clips the hair under the ear flap, and along the rear of the dog's cheek SHORT! The cocker ear needs air circulation to dry and keep dry. Long hair in this area keeps the air from getting to Bella's ear canal.
I also keep the hair on the underside of the ear flap, short as well.
My vet tells me that my cockers have the healthiest ears she has ever seen!

Hope these suggestions help.
However, if your Bella has a staph infection again, a vet visit is needed, sorry.

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 Post subject: Re: Help...vet visits for skin and ear infections so costly
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:50 am 
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Hi,

So sorry to hear this. I second everything Marianne said above. Is your vet giving you any advice on diet and grooming besides just giving her medication and asking for her to be brought back?

Cici spent 3 years in a good shelter, but was fed diet with grain and was likely not groomed frequently, so when we met her, they warned us that she has ear infection 2-3 times a year.

We have had her for 19 months now and not a single ear infection and no excess wax. So, grain free diet (no corn, wheat and such listed as ingredients). What you spend on higher quality food you will more than save on vet visits. What kind of food does she eat?

Keep inner flap of ears completely shaved or very short. I haven't tried the Zim cleaner, but everyone loves it on this forum. I use T8 Keto ear flush and it really works well, so I haven't changed it.

She may also be allergic to certain foods. Some dogs are allergic to chicken, for example, and it gives them skin issues.

When CC came home, she was itchy in her ears and after baths, so we used Virbac leave on Resi-soothe conditioner/lotion and she's been fine since.

I hope this is helpful.

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 Post subject: Re: Help...vet visits for skin and ear infections so costly
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:05 am 
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Here is a picture of the inside of my Bridgette's ear.
You can see how closely clipped it is; both along Bridge's skull and around her ear canal opening and on the underside of her ear leather(ear flap).
I clip all 5 of the inside of my cockers' ears like this.


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 Post subject: Re: Help...vet visits for skin and ear infections so costly
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:29 am 
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Excellent advice from Marianne....

I would add that although your vet is doing the best he can it may be time to move on to a specialist. I highly recommend you find a very good animal dermatologist! I've found that they are able to quickly diagnosis and treat with the proper medications faster than my vet. You might cringe and think it's going to cost so much but I've found mine to be very reasonable and frankly cost less in the long run because she knew what she was treating not just guessing. I'm sorry but if my vet made a statement like yours did.... I'd be out of there! Yes, Cockers are prone to ear infections and skin issues ... but so are many other breeds. There may be a MEDICAL reason for the problems. If your vet just blows you off without checking to see if there is an underlining reason for the problem, he's not treating the problem just bandaging the symptoms. Has he done skin scrapings for mites, walking dandruff, or doggie lice? Elimination diet? Blood work to make sure it's not a thyroid issue? Biopsied the skin? Also Cocker Spaniels can have a Vitamin A deficiency. (Check out this thread ... https://www.zimfamilycockers.com/Forums ... =35&t=1743 )

Seriously, it's time to get a second opinion.

As for why they have to see your pet for the same symptoms... blame their medical malpractice insurance... Just covering their behinds. Can't say I blame them in this day and age.

Good luck... I know how frustrating it is!

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 Post subject: Re: Help...vet visits for skin and ear infections so costly
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:35 am 
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Totally agree with Lisa. If my vet said "oh it's a cocker", I would be outta there too!

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 Post subject: Re: Help...vet visits for skin and ear infections so costly
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Lexie has allergies, mostly spring to fall, and sees a dermatologist.

She takes prescription Apoquel daily to control the itch.

MiconaHex+Triz shampoo weekly.

Right now she is still on 1/2 tab fluconazole 3x a week to control fungal part. Since she had a flare up early spring.

Her skin is clear now but we are on maintenence mode. The chewing and itching is under control.

She has always eaten grain free and top quality foods and treats. Pretty sure her allergy is environmental. I've tried different proteins over the years.

I've always used Liquid Health K9 Solution and always get raving comments on how clean all my cockers ears are.

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 Post subject: Re: Help...vet visits for skin and ear infections so costly
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:03 pm 
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Also get her thyroid checked (full panel, not just T4 and TSH) as hypothyroidism can often cause skin and ear infections.

I use Thornit powder sprinkled in both my cockers' ears and they never have any problems.

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