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 Post subject: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:47 pm 
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I hope no one every has the need, but I wanted to share this information. This is the hospital we used when our Annie was diagnosed with cancer. They are an amazing group of specialists that really care about their patients and owners, and make them feel that no question is off limits, and try their best to come up with the treatment plan that will work best for all. They have several ongoing clinical trials both at their hospital, and elsewhere. The website has a lot of great information.

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 Post subject: Re: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
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Thank you, Cindy, for posting this link. :nw

I know many of us who have lost at least one to this insidious disease. :cry

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 Post subject: Re: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:21 am 
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JuanitaD wrote:
Thank you, Cindy, for posting this link. :nw

I know many of us who have lost at least one to this insidious disease. :cry


The cost for treatment varies a lot depending on the diagnosis and treatment. While this specialty hospital is on the East coast, their web page has links to studies and clinical trials throughout the country. Depending on the trial or study, treatment costs may be free or at a low price. When we dealt with this hospital, they took the dog's age and general health into consideration, along with the cost of treatments and the owner's ability to cover the costs. They gave several options for treatment vs keeping the dog as comfortable as possible. I was impressed with the way the doctors and staff treated all with respect and compassion. They worked with owners and left the choices up to the owner without judging their decisions.

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 Post subject: Re: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:59 pm 
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Tucker has had four chemotherapy treatments . Around Christmas time, after the fourth treatment, he crashed and I thought that his time had come. He rallied and was doing real well until a few days ago, when he crashed again. IV fluids, more antibiotics, and a bit of steroids perked him up again. Radiographs or xrays showed that he has pneumonia or a tumor in his lung that was originally in his spleen(that was removed). Tuckers time is probably short and day to day. He is eating and happy today

This is very sad beware as the Vet puts down his own dog after four chemotherapy treatments, and does an autopsy and what he finds. Is it worth it? The dogs liver exploded an was bleeding internally. The dog ended up with three tumors.

This made me cry, it's a learning process what to do and when to do it. As for me I don't believe in chemotherapy as it's a poison and kills also.

This is a warning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW1VeTZvt_c


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 Post subject: Re: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
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Joe in North Bay Ca wrote:
Published on Jan 12, 2014

Tucker has had four chemotherapy treatments . Around Christmas time, after the fourth treatment, he crashed and I thought that his time had come. He rallied and was doing real well until a few days ago, when he crashed again. IV fluids, more antibiotics, and a bit of steroids perked him up again. Radiographs or xrays showed that he has pneumonia or a tumor in his lung that was originally in his spleen(that was removed). Tuckers time is probably short and day to day. He is eating and happy today

This is very sad beware as the Vet puts down his own dog after four chemotherapy treatments, and does an autopsy and what he finds. Is it worth it? The dogs liver exploded an was bleeding internally. The dog ended up with three tumors.

This made me cry, it's a learning process what to do and when to do it. As for me I don't believe in chemotherapy as it's a poison and kills also.

This is a warning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW1VeTZvt_c


When my Annie got IMHA I was told, even by some on the forum, to let her go an not put her through treatment because the steroids, chemo drugs, etc. would be both expensive and I was making her suffer. Thankfully I didn't listen. Annie did well on the treatment and had none of the side effects from the chemo she might have and, three years later, is enjoying life. The problem with "information" such as this is it's one person's story. It isn't a given, it isn't a medical certainty. While I might suggest people speak with their vet and such I would never encourage anyone to blow off treatment based on what may or may not occur based on this person's story. If you choose to not do chemo for you, your dogs, anyone you know and advise, that is fine but I personally know six dogs the my vet has treated and all are doing well at from between 1 year and 10 years post treatment.

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 Post subject: Re: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:37 am 
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Joe in North Bay Ca wrote:
Published on Jan 12, 2014

Tucker has had four chemotherapy treatments . Around Christmas time, after the fourth treatment, he crashed and I thought that his time had come. He rallied and was doing real well until a few days ago, when he crashed again. IV fluids, more antibiotics, and a bit of steroids perked him up again. Radiographs or xrays showed that he has pneumonia or a tumor in his lung that was originally in his spleen(that was removed). Tuckers time is probably short and day to day. He is eating and happy today

This is very sad beware as the Vet puts down his own dog after four chemotherapy treatments, and does an autopsy and what he finds. Is it worth it? The dogs liver exploded an was bleeding internally. The dog ended up with three tumors.

This made me cry, it's a learning process what to do and when to do it. As for me I don't believe in chemotherapy as it's a poison and kills also.

This is a warning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW1VeTZvt_c




Joe, I saw that video several months ago, and like then, I just couldn't watch it in it's entirety. It just brings back all the memories of my own dog five years ago. Yes chemo is questionably, it has saved many lives, but sadly in many cases it hasn't. It's each individual's choice. If that was Snickie, then no I wouldn't have put her through that. When I first met and held Snickie 5 years ago, I cried and promised her that I would not extend her life if she became terminally ill. I would not put her, or myself through something like that again.
What people have to realize with this video, if you can watch the whole thing, which I can't, this is a Vet with his own dog. This is not a person like you or I, making a video of our dog with cancer, getting chemo and then saying that chemo is worthless. He is a Vet and could give treatments to his dog, that you or I could never afford to do with our own pets. He did this knowing that it wasn't going to save his dog's life, all it would do was maybe extend his life by a few months, if that. In doing this video we get to see how the pet reacts, the questions we would have, the emotions we would be going through. He realizes after the fourth round of chemo that he himself just can not extend his dogs life anymore, the dog is not living a comfortable life.
There is a time and place for chemo, every Vet or MD knows when chemo will help to save a life, or only extend it briefly, which I think we can all agree on. Vickie, I am glad that you still have your Annie, and yes, she fought for her life, and won,and I am glad for her and you, but it wasn't a case of terminal cancer, and not to underscore Annie's medical issue of IMHA, but chemo in this situation with Tucker wasn't going to save his life, and this Vet, owner of Tucker, knew it. He wanted to have first hand knowledge, not what he had been taught in Vet School, to pass on to his patients. But he also got to see how it really affected his dog after he died. Something else he can pass onto his clients, to let them make their choices. As the Vet says at the end of the video, talk with your Vet. I have watched many of this Vets video's and he really cares about the welfare of pets, his, as well as his clients. This is the kind of Vet that I want taking care of my pets, this is what my Vet is like, this is why I continue to take my pets to him.
The Vet practice that I go to is large, there are only three Vets that I will use, and one that I use exclusively .Several years ago with my elderly diabetic cat,he developed new issues,which I brought him to my Vet, we did preliminary tests, and because he's been a Vet for many years and I trust his judgement, and he knew the drug that was being used on the cat for diabetes, for an extended time would cause a certain type of fatal cancer, prognosis, not long to live. So without further testing, a wait and see, six months later, the cat had to be put down. Do I regret not doing anything, no. Did the Vet give me options, yes, but with his frankness and knowledge, I knew as the owner of the cat, as well as the Vet, that the time was up for this cat.
Unfortunately with my previous dog, when I rushed her in five years ago, I had to take who was free at the time. I got talked into saving her life, even thou it was hopeless, she made it sound like I would have her for a couple more years. Thousands of dollars, and 2 1/2 months later, her life was ended. And her life didn't end when I wanted it to. She insisted that it wasn't time. I felt like my dog was an experiment as to how long she could be kept alive.
About 2 weeks before I put down my previous dog, I took a video of her, the last time I watched it was two years ago. It is very upsetting to me to watch it. That video is not the way I wish to remember my dog. If I am ever in any doubt with Snickie's welfare in the future, I will watch that video, and ask myself, is this what I want for Snickie?


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 Post subject: Re: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:37 am 
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Cindy wrote:
http://www.vcchope.com/

I hope no one every has the need, but I wanted to share this information. This is the hospital we used when our Annie was diagnosed with cancer. They are an amazing group of specialists that really care about their patients and owners, and make them feel that no question is off limits, and try their best to come up with the treatment plan that will work best for all. They have several ongoing clinical trials both at their hospital, and elsewhere. The website has a lot of great information.


Wonderful info Cindy! For anyone out here in CA, here is the link to where Dusty was treated.
http://www.cvsangelcare.com/
I can't say enough good things about Dr. Ogilvie and his staff. We had the same experience. I truly believe Dusty had the best care possible despite the outcome. They save so many, unfortunately they can't save all of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:58 pm 
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Veterinarian Administers Medical Marijuana to Dogs, Says it Works Wonders

Veterinarian Doug Kramer considers his work to be “enlightened”, even naming his clinic the Enlightened Veterinary Therapeutics. When hearing about his out-of-the-box methodolgy, it’s hard to argue.

Dr. Kramer administers medical marijuana to dogs, especially those with late-staged cancer. He does so in his clinic, and is undeniably vocal about it. He’s not hiding what he’s doing, and instead is making sure to spread the word as far and wide as he can.

In an article published recently on Dogster.com, one of the largest dog sites in the world, Kramer states, regarding the decision to go against the law:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&sqi=2&ved=0CHUQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthejointblog.com%2Fveterinarian-administers-medical-marijuana-to-dogs-says-it-works-wonders%2F&ei=z7zvVP6dLsXSoATlw4GoDQ&usg=AFQjCNE_LHa7m4c4sCms_KurpGsoO1rM0g&bvm=bv.87269000,d.cGU&cad=rja

I would add hemp oil to the dog food.


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 Post subject: Re: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH5yzEu3JGQ

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 Post subject: Re: Hospital for treatment of canine cancers
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Joe in North Bay Ca wrote:
Veterinarian Administers Medical Marijuana to Dogs, Says it Works Wonders

Veterinarian Doug Kramer considers his work to be “enlightened”, even naming his clinic the Enlightened Veterinary Therapeutics. When hearing about his out-of-the-box methodolgy, it’s hard to argue.

Dr. Kramer administers medical marijuana to dogs, especially those with late-staged cancer. He does so in his clinic, and is undeniably vocal about it. He’s not hiding what he’s doing, and instead is making sure to spread the word as far and wide as he can.

In an article published recently on Dogster.com, one of the largest dog sites in the world, Kramer states, regarding the decision to go against the law:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&sqi=2&ved=0CHUQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthejointblog.com%2Fveterinarian-administers-medical-marijuana-to-dogs-says-it-works-wonders%2F&ei=z7zvVP6dLsXSoATlw4GoDQ&usg=AFQjCNE_LHa7m4c4sCms_KurpGsoO1rM0g&bvm=bv.87269000,d.cGU&cad=rja

I would add hemp oil to the dog food.


This vet died at the age of 36, could had been cancer.


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